[ Clever, foresighted Celebrimbor, of course he has thought it through already. Curufin smiles. ]
Good. The less she likes it, the happier I will be. The happier we all will be! And I doubt not that Caedra will be back to trouble others, even if not us. We must indeed be vigilant and forearmed.
Yes, I'm taking care of myself. I slipped away to Hope's temple while your uncles and cousin Fingon were elsewhere, but of course, Maglor made a point of making me promise not to do it again. It's hard, though. I get so restless.
And you, my son? We have not had much chance to talk or spend time together talked in a while. Hadriel does seem to keep us both busy! How are you?
(There are so many ideas he wished he had implemented in his first life. Now he can do so - on a much smaller scale.)
Do we intend to trap her or kill her? Is she one that can resurrect without the aid of the gods? (If so, pieces can be scattered to the four winds if need be.)
Will you go on a walk with me? I need to stretch my legs and you know I cannot journey far. It should not tax you.
(He frowns faintly at the question.) I'm concerned about you and Yukari. Your personal business is your own - tell me not to intrude and this goes no further - but...
I can see may similarities between the two of you. However he reminds me more of...your younger self.
[ He is glad that Cel can implement some of those ideas on any scale. As Curufin knows from experience, it takes a lifetime to figure out what is essential. One is lucky to have a second life, in that case. ]
I think your uncles will be the ones who decide that, but you must make your best suggestions. I do not think that she can resurrect of her own accord -- at least, not at Hadriel. I believe that the gods have taken that ability away. [ At least, he hopes so! ]
Yes, I'll go for a walk with you! I would love to get out of the house. [ Smile. ] You provide me with the best of excuses. I must spend time with my son. . . and I want to.
[ His face becomes more serious. ] You must never fear to bring up any matter that concerns you, Tyelpe. If I had listened to you more in the old days, it would have been better for us all. And I've been very concerned about Yukari myself.
Wait, I'll meet you on the front walk!
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[ Curufin pulls on a jacket and goes outside to wait for Celebrimbor. He smiles affectionately when his son shows up, and then he responds to the last remark. ]
You see that, do you? I've had many thoughts along the same lines. Tell me all your own thinking, and as I said, do not be afraid to express whatever you need to say.
(Celebrimbor waits until Curufin is with him in person before he says further. He is carrying a small notebook of ideas he has sketched concerning the demonic problem and his brow is furrowed as he looks over one.)
Killing her might be a mercy in that case. I think maiming her or imprisoning her would be more useful. Locks can be made that do not require keys.
(He shakes his head, bringing himself out of his brooding and gives Curufin a small smile.)
Yukari seems like he is...at a crossroad. He can either continue being someone who does not listen nor heed his heart or he can open himself to all emotions - the good and the bad. (They know how much it hurts and Celebrimbor doesn't blame Yukari for faltering.) I will say this: if he verbally abuses you and I hear of it, I will not have it. Love should not be spoiled by cruelty.
[ Curufin is very interested in that notebook, and he comes close enough to look over Cel's shoulder. ]
If she does not fear being killed, then perhaps she would fear serious injury or confinement? And it's true, we could forge some locks that would only unlock themselves for us or for others of our family.
[ He smiles back at his son. His eyes are full of warmth. ]
I would say that, too. A crossroads. I think he knows this himself, on some level. But it is difficult for him. In order to escape from pain, he closed his own heart and learned not to hear it or feel it -- when he was too young to understand the consequences to himself and others. [ And oh yes, they know well how painful it can be to be open to all emotions! ] I only know a part of his life's story, but I know that his heart was torn when his mother died. And I know that he sustained serious physical and emotional injury when a man he initially loved and trusted turned out to be an abuser of the worst sort.
Yukari is not prone to verbal abuse, though. You do not need to worry about that. I get frustrated when he can't hear me because his heart is shut and his ears are closed, but it's not like that all the time. The rest of the time, he tries as best he can. But thank you, my son, for wanting to be my champion.
(He is welcome to peruse it! Celebrimbor has no secrets - even when it hurts.)
Incapacitation would be the worst fate for her ilk. Chaos desires to move - to create more of its kind. If she is chained, head and foot, she cannot continue her mission.
(Celebrimbor scratches his cheek bashfully, nodding slowly.)
I know what it is like to love...or to think I loved...and only be abused and used in return. He cannot mimic the actions of his abuser. He must rise above him.
(For Curufin's sake and for Yukari's own. His eyes are a darkened silver when he looks at his father again.)
Even so. The demonic kind are dynamic, as we know. Being immobilized would not only prevent her doing the same thing again, it would profoundly frustrate her. We'll talk more of this option after the Sewing Shop is safely warded.
[ He looks on Cel's face with love and sympathy. ] Yes, you know well what it is like to be attached to a deceiver and a user. And I think you are right. Part of Yukari's attachment to Chaos has to do with imitating his abuser, maybe even without knowing that that is what he is doing. I do not have that experience, so I must defer to your knowledge, my son. But I second that: he must make another choice, for healing does not lie in wounding others. And in fact, he has been searching for alternatives.
[ Oh, that shy gesture! Curufin smiles with tenderness and takes Cel's arm and starts up the spiral ramp walk that leads up to the ground level of the housing complex. It will be nice to get out into the neighborhood, into the sunshine, hot as it is. But at the moment, there is only one sun in the sky, and it is recently risen, so the temperature is acceptable. There is a fresh breeze blowing. ]
[ He looks into those darkened silver eyes. Now they look something like Curufin's, except Curufin's are always like that. ] If you are willing to speak to him of your experiences, perhaps it might help. I would be grateful. And. . . maybe it would help you, too.
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Good. The less she likes it, the happier I will be. The happier we all will be! And I doubt not that Caedra will be back to trouble others, even if not us. We must indeed be vigilant and forearmed.
Yes, I'm taking care of myself. I slipped away to Hope's temple while your uncles and cousin Fingon were elsewhere, but of course, Maglor made a point of making me promise not to do it again. It's hard, though. I get so restless.
And you, my son? We have not had much chance to talk or spend time together talked in a while. Hadriel does seem to keep us both busy! How are you?
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Do we intend to trap her or kill her? Is she one that can resurrect without the aid of the gods? (If so, pieces can be scattered to the four winds if need be.)
Will you go on a walk with me? I need to stretch my legs and you know I cannot journey far. It should not tax you.
(He frowns faintly at the question.) I'm concerned about you and Yukari. Your personal business is your own - tell me not to intrude and this goes no further - but...
I can see may similarities between the two of you. However he reminds me more of...your younger self.
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I think your uncles will be the ones who decide that, but you must make your best suggestions. I do not think that she can resurrect of her own accord -- at least, not at Hadriel. I believe that the gods have taken that ability away. [ At least, he hopes so! ]
Yes, I'll go for a walk with you! I would love to get out of the house. [ Smile. ] You provide me with the best of excuses. I must spend time with my son. . . and I want to.
[ His face becomes more serious. ] You must never fear to bring up any matter that concerns you, Tyelpe. If I had listened to you more in the old days, it would have been better for us all. And I've been very concerned about Yukari myself.
Wait, I'll meet you on the front walk!
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[ Curufin pulls on a jacket and goes outside to wait for Celebrimbor. He smiles affectionately when his son shows up, and then he responds to the last remark. ]
You see that, do you? I've had many thoughts along the same lines. Tell me all your own thinking, and as I said, do not be afraid to express whatever you need to say.
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Killing her might be a mercy in that case. I think maiming her or imprisoning her would be more useful. Locks can be made that do not require keys.
(He shakes his head, bringing himself out of his brooding and gives Curufin a small smile.)
Yukari seems like he is...at a crossroad. He can either continue being someone who does not listen nor heed his heart or he can open himself to all emotions - the good and the bad. (They know how much it hurts and Celebrimbor doesn't blame Yukari for faltering.) I will say this: if he verbally abuses you and I hear of it, I will not have it. Love should not be spoiled by cruelty.
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If she does not fear being killed, then perhaps she would fear serious injury or confinement? And it's true, we could forge some locks that would only unlock themselves for us or for others of our family.
[ He smiles back at his son. His eyes are full of warmth. ]
I would say that, too. A crossroads. I think he knows this himself, on some level. But it is difficult for him. In order to escape from pain, he closed his own heart and learned not to hear it or feel it -- when he was too young to understand the consequences to himself and others. [ And oh yes, they know well how painful it can be to be open to all emotions! ] I only know a part of his life's story, but I know that his heart was torn when his mother died. And I know that he sustained serious physical and emotional injury when a man he initially loved and trusted turned out to be an abuser of the worst sort.
Yukari is not prone to verbal abuse, though. You do not need to worry about that. I get frustrated when he can't hear me because his heart is shut and his ears are closed, but it's not like that all the time. The rest of the time, he tries as best he can. But thank you, my son, for wanting to be my champion.
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Incapacitation would be the worst fate for her ilk. Chaos desires to move - to create more of its kind. If she is chained, head and foot, she cannot continue her mission.
(Celebrimbor scratches his cheek bashfully, nodding slowly.)
I know what it is like to love...or to think I loved...and only be abused and used in return. He cannot mimic the actions of his abuser. He must rise above him.
(For Curufin's sake and for Yukari's own. His eyes are a darkened silver when he looks at his father again.)
Would it help...if I told him of...my experience?
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Even so. The demonic kind are dynamic, as we know. Being immobilized would not only prevent her doing the same thing again, it would profoundly frustrate her. We'll talk more of this option after the Sewing Shop is safely warded.
[ He looks on Cel's face with love and sympathy. ] Yes, you know well what it is like to be attached to a deceiver and a user. And I think you are right. Part of Yukari's attachment to Chaos has to do with imitating his abuser, maybe even without knowing that that is what he is doing. I do not have that experience, so I must defer to your knowledge, my son. But I second that: he must make another choice, for healing does not lie in wounding others. And in fact, he has been searching for alternatives.
[ Oh, that shy gesture! Curufin smiles with tenderness and takes Cel's arm and starts up the spiral ramp walk that leads up to the ground level of the housing complex. It will be nice to get out into the neighborhood, into the sunshine, hot as it is. But at the moment, there is only one sun in the sky, and it is recently risen, so the temperature is acceptable. There is a fresh breeze blowing. ]
[ He looks into those darkened silver eyes. Now they look something like Curufin's, except Curufin's are always like that. ] If you are willing to speak to him of your experiences, perhaps it might help. I would be grateful. And. . . maybe it would help you, too.